Interviu: Tomas Pettersson, Ordo Rosarius Equilibrio

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Sambata viitoare, pe 15 nov., brasovenii or sa aiba rara ocazie sa ii vada in concert pe Ordo Rosarius Equilibrio, trupa suedeza catalogata de folk industrial experimental (plus ceva neofolk si martial), adusi de Kogaionon (atentie, link cu sonor).

Tomas Pettersson
si Rose Marie Larsen vor veni impreuna cu alti patru muzicieni si vor prezenta (in stilul lor bombastic, orgiastic si depravat) in premiera noul lor album, intitulat "O.N.A.N.I (Practice Makes Perfect)", care va aparea spre sfarsitul acestui an.

Concertul va avea loc la Centrul Cultural Reduta si in deschidere vor canta Cascadeur si In Slaughter Natives. Biletele se gasesc in reteaua Flanco si Diverta, pe www.bilet.ro, www.ticketpoint.ro si www.bilete.ro, precum si la www.bangyourbrain.com si www.bestial.ro.

Pana sambata ii puteti asculta si pe site-ul lor, la sectiunea Gospels. Mai jos se gaseste in romana si engleza un lung interviu pe care Tomas a avut rabdare sa ni-l dea via e-mail. Fotografiile sunt toate de pe site-ul oficial al trupei.


For the INTERVIEW IN ENGLISH see below

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1. Lasand la o parte etichetele, poti face o scurta descriere stilului vostru muzica si a orientarii voastre generale?

 

Dragoste; cea mai fatala si letala dintre maladiile contractabile.

Durere si placere: cat de how incantator, cat de inselator si cat de mistuitor.

Dorinta: cum flacara tuturor dorintelor omenesti arde in fiecare barbat si femeie.

Viata; imi place sa privesc si sa fiu privit. Visez si ravnesc. Iubesc si urasc. Rad si plang. Dar unde ma duce testosteronul?

Iluminare; cum totul devine dintr-o data atat de clar esec dupa esec, dupa esec.

Minciuni; ce sunt adevarul si minciuna pentru cei care nici nu vad, nici nu aud?

Razboi; cum a inceput o lupta fara sfarsit pe 14 mai 1948.

Trei [oameni] fac o orgie; patru maini dau mai multa placere decat doua. Iubirea in trei ar putea fi salvarea pe care o cautam toti. Cine iti saruta ApocaLipsa?  (Who is kissing your Apocalips?)

Ignoranta; sa nu poti sa vezi padurea din cauza copacilor. Suntem gata sa acceptam consecintele faptelor noastre?

Schimbare; soarele apune si fiecare zi se termina. Totul se schimba, dar ramane la fel.  

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2. Spui mereu ca faci muzica pentru placerea ta. Dar cine este publicul vostru? Cei care va consuma, cum se identifica ei cu tine si tu cu ei? Care este linia care va uneste punctele?

 

Spune-mi tu, mai bine.

N-am nici cea mai vaga idee care este profilul ascultatorului nostru obisnuit, mai ales pentru ca situatia s-a schimbat de-a lungul anilor.

Care e linia care te uneste pe tine si pe cei pe care ii cunosti si asculta muzica noastra? Ce aveti in comun? Sexul in grup? Asemanari si interese spirituale si ideologice?

 

3. Ce este Armata Trandafirilor (The Army of Roses)?

 

Armata Trandafirilor si a Echilibrului era o ambitie mai veche de-a mea fondata odata cu site-ul ORE in anul 2000. Un forum prin care puteam interactiona cu ascultatorii nostri.

Dar ideea a esuat si nu am izbandit nimic din ce mi-am propus.

Cu toate astea, va fi reinviata si perfectionata, devenind o platforma pentru cei asemenea sau o comunitate pentru investigari sexuale si vise tasnite in relitate (cuming true)? Trecerea timpului ne va arata ce va deveni, dar deocamdata e in hibernare.

 

4. Impartasesti ideile sau spiritualitatea vreunei religii, de orice fel?   

 

Tu te simti conectata in vreun fel?

 

5. Ce spui despre destin?

 

Nu cred in destin.

Ma tulbura ca as putea sa cred ca totul este pre-conceput de interventia divina.

Daca as iesi azi si as masacra pe toti cei care mi-ar iesi in cale? Asta ar fi destin? Ar fi un act comandat de dumnezeu, predestinat in conformitate cu vreun plan divin?

Nu cred.

Tabloul il pictam noi insine, in orice culori ne place.

Noi ne alegem scenariul, noi decidem subiectul.

Cateodata picteaza altii involuntar tabloul pentru noi, dar la sfarsit e tot decizia noastra.

E mai bine sa regretam lucrurile pe care le-am facut, decat sa ne para rau ca nu le-am facut.

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6. Crezi in reincarnare? Iti amintesti desfraul Romei? (Do you remember the depravity of Rome?)

 

Asta e o notiune complexa.

Nu imi place ideea sufletelor calatoare.

Imi pare inutila reincarnarea daca nu putem face constient o alegere care sa se foloseasca de experienta trecutului si sa imbunatateasca prezentul. Dar cred partial in ideea unei energii unanime, ca fiind ACEEA care inglobeaza lumea, asa cum o percepem noi.

Nu dumnezeu, nu un spirit colectiv, ci o scanteie unanima de energie care este motorul universal.

Si ACEA energie are abilitatea intrinseca de a ne furniza fragmente infime de impresii / amintiri din trecut, prin energia pe care o intrupam si prin care functionam.

 

7. Dragoste si sex: fete ale aceleiasi monede sau coincidentia oppositorum?

 

Nu ne futem cu toti cei pe care ii iubim si nu ii iubim pe toti cei cu care ne futem.

Pur si simplu nu este acelasi lucru.

Nici macar fete diferite ale aceleiasi monede.

Un lucru n-are de-a face cu altul.

Dragostea e frumoasa si sexul e grozav si e si mai bine cand se intampla in acelasi timp, dar pot fi la fel de bune si luate separat.


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8. Pe directia data de Ordinul Echilibrului, ai putea sa ne dai corespondentul care produce "echilibru prin dezechilibru" al urmatoarelor?:

 

Muzica -

O reflexie pala a spiritului cuiva intr-o perioada limitata de timp, adica "perioada de creatie". E intotdeauna interesanta, inttodeauna captivanta

Pentru mine, muzica e o supapa egoista, constructiva.

Serveste scopul de a ma satisface pe mine, dorintele mele, visele si gandurile mele si de a imi da unele raspunsuri la intrebarile pe care le am.

Ce zugravesc este o reflexie a mea, atat liric, cat si muzical, muzical cat si grafic. Este dovada MEA fiziologica.

Si daca aceasta canalizare a ego-ului, prin text, muzica si imagini, poate inspira o singura persoana sa isi ia viata in maini, sa isi realizeze visurile si sa TRAIASCA viata la intregul potential, atunci cautarea mea a luat sfarsit si a meritat pana la capat.

 

Apocalips -

Intre buzele apocalipsei am fost creati si acolo ne-am nascut. Sunt buzele pe care le sarut si cu care ma desfat. Sunt buzele dorintei si creatiei, buzele pe care vrem sa le satisfacem si pentru care suferim in dorinta noastra.

Sunt buzele care nu incep razboaie si sunt cele care pot sa le incheie.

Cine saruta buzele apocalipsei tale?

 

Apocalipsa -

Asa cum vad eu, Apocalipsa a inceput deja.

Nu incepe cu venirea cuiva sau a ceva anume, Apocalipsa e facuta de om si a inceput deja.

Murim din cauza razboaielor, a poluarii, a foametei, a dezastrelor naturale, a bolilor create de om, a razboaielor biologice si chimice etc., etc.

Conceptia gresita este ca oamenii se asteapta la un final apocaliptic; si tot asteapta artificii divine, dar asta nu se va intampla prea curand.

Pentru mine Apocalipsa e un proces al schimbarii. Nu e o stare permanenta ca fericirea eterna, feeria, disperarea sau nenorocirea; astea sunt doar descrieri religioase a ceea ce vor credinciosii sa fie Apocalipsa.

Spune-i Apocalipsei razboi, schimbare, depravare morala, deconstructie sociala, spune-i cum vrei. Sfarsitul lumii a inceput deja, odata cu geneza omului, si va continua pana cand acest virus numit umanitate ca disparea de pe fata pamantului.

Nu putem face nimic sa o oprim, putem doar sa profitam cat se poate de mult de biata perioada de timp care ne-a fost acordata.

Din cate mi s-a spus, Anticristul e deja aici, e internat intr-un spital de nebuni de la periferia New York-ului si mi-a scris o scrisoare acum vreo doi ani cerandu-mi ajutorul.

Cred de asemenea ca Isus e in salonul de alaturi, luandu-si medicamentele zilnice.

 

Paganism –

Ce pot sa spun?

"Fa ce doresti si aceea-ti va fi legea pe de-a-ntregul" (*).

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Sex –

Sexul nu e niciodata intrebarea, sexul este raspunsul.

Nu suntem niciodata prea vulnerabili si niciodata prea puternici.

Dorinta si sexualitatea determina CINE si CE suntem. Bi, hetero, trans sau homo - nu este important. Daca vreau o fata, ma culc cu o fata, daca vreau un barbat, ma culc cu unul, daca ii vreau pe amandoi, ma culc cu amandoi. Ma fut, sarut, ating, simt, gust, doresc, sunt sexual, nimic mai mult.

 

Orgie -

Sa o facem singuri, sa o facem in doi, in trei sau in patru. Cu cat mai multi, cu atat mai bine. Barbati femei, femei barbati. Daca exista consens, merge orice. Patru maini dau mai multa placere decat doua.

 

Pornografie -

Ce este pornografia? Orice fel de sexualitate pe film?

Toti oamenii goi care fac sex in filme sau in imagini inseamna pornografie? Chiar si oamenii foarte urati?

Imi place porno, chiar imi place, cand este constructiv, si as prefera sa pierd o ora in fata televizorului uitandu-ma la porno decat sa ma uit la o drama neinteresanta.

 

Credinta -

Cand zeii nostri sunt in flacari, atunci incepe cu adevarat viata.

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9. "The Gospel of Tomas" (Evanghelia dupa Tomas): Te poti vedea sau chiar te vezi ca un fel de (anti) profet? Si daca nu asta este intentia, de ce aceste parabole fantastice? Sunt un crez sau doar poeme epice?

 

Da, eu sunt Anti-Profetul.

Veniti / ejaculati cu mine si vedeti singuri orgiile Trandafirilor si Echilibrului.

 

Nu-mi ascultati cuvintele, nu spun adevarul.
Nu spun vorbe intelepte si nu vorbesc cu voi
Nu-mi culeg floarea din genealogia oamenilor
O smulg in secret din ce e pur si ce e bolnav
Nu-mi priviti semnele, nu trebuie vazute
Ele reflecta nebunia secretelor mele ascunse
Nu imi privi fata, nu o sa iti placa
Sunt Cain sunt Cezar sunt Iuda in curand
Nu imi privi sufletul, e temut si dispretuit
Lasa-te sedus de cuvintele mele si inselat de lumina
Ma violeaza sora-mea, e fratele meu deghizat
Iadul sa-mi fie refugiu, eu sunt Isus profanat

(Hell is my refuge - lyrics)

 

10. Al patrulea Razboi Mondial va fi purtat cu bete si pietre?

 

Al treilea Razboi Mondial a inceput deja, doar ca unii sunt prea orbi sa vada. Ei cred ca va arata precum primele doua. Dar vremurile s-au schimbat si lucrurile nu mai sunt la fel, nici razboaiele.

Cine stie cum va arata Al Patrulea Razboi Mondial?

Vom afla cand se va termina. 


11. Gata cu intrebarile serioase. Cum s-a terminat vanatoarea de sperma lansata international pentru albumul Practice Makes Perfect?

 

Am primit foarte multe contributii din toata lumea si sunt multumit de rezultat.

Dar din aceasta intrebare, pe care am mai auzit-o si inainte, nu sunt sigur ca oamenii ne-au perceput corect ambitiile.

Unii par sa creada ca era un concurs, cu un castigator; si nici ideea de vanatoare de cumshots nu e o descriere prea potrivita.

Ceea ce am cautat a fost o interactiune cu cei care ne asculta. Am vrut sa ne dea si ei noua ceva in schimb, dupa ce noi le-am dat ceva timp de 15 ani; si ce am cerut noi au fost fotografii personale din timpul masturbarii, pentru a le folosi in contextul grafic / estetic al albumului O N A N I.

Si asta am si facut.

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12. De ce nu aveti "videoclipuri oficiale"? De ce nu mai mult material vizual? Pe site aveti fotografii frumusele, dar tot materialul video cu voi de pe internet e de 2 bani, inregistrari de amator de la concertele voastre.

 

Chiar asa, de ce n-avem?

As vrea ca toate inregistrarile alea live sa se evapore. Si mi-ar placea sa avem si mai multa propaganda vizuala si resurse, dar e o chestiune de timp si de bani, si n-avem nici una, nici alta.

 

O N A N I va avea un videoclip si o colectie noua de fotografie. La fel si Songs 4 Hate & Devotion in septembrie 2009. Si vom continua sa cream mai multe materiale video in timp, dar asta cere timp, iar timpul inseamna bani, iar banii sunt o resursa limitata.

 

13. Apropo de concerte live, desi aveti proiecte comune cu Spiritual Front, la Brasov veti veni cu (vecinii de la Cold Meat Ind.) In Slaughter Natives si Cascadeur, in timp ce Spiritual Front or sa va urmeze in concert la Brasov abia o luna mai tarziu, pe 13 decembrie, cu Rome. De ce ne rapiti placerea rara de a va vedea impreuna in concert?

Da, chiar, de ce or fi facut asa?

Mi-ar fi placut sa cantam impreuna cu Spiritual Front in Romania, la inceput am crezut ca asta era ideea initiala, dar se pare ca m-am inselat.

Noi avem timp, ei au timp, nu a fost o problema de programe si agende incarcate.

Data viitoare cand ne vom intalni va fi cand Simone va veni la Stockholm de ziua mea si cand vom avea petrecerea de lansare O N A N I pe 17 ianuarie, dar desigur ca ar fi fost grozav daca am fi putut sa ne intalnim mai devreme, in Romania.

 

14. Apropo de Simone, I spus odata intr-un interviu ca lucrezi numai cu oamenii cu care ai relatii sexuale. Cum l-ai intalnit pe Mr. Armageddon Gigolo?

 

Ne-am intalnit la o orgie in Berlin. Ne-am recunoscut reciproc pentru ca avem prieteni comuni in Italia si intre diverse [cenzurat] acte de natura sexuala adulta, am stat de vorba la un pahar despre viata, sex, moarte si muzica. Am ajuns la concluzia comuna ca ne datoram noua insine si lumii intregi sa facem ceva valoros impreuna.

A fost o intalnire interesanta si foarte recompensatoare. Ne-am mai intalnit de cateva ori de atunci, dar prima intalnire ramane cea memorabila.

 

15. Cum era viata inainte de ORE? La ce lucrai? La ce visai?

 

Cred ca ai impresia ca acum traiesc exclusiv din veniturile provenite din ORE, dar ma vad nevoit sa te dezamagesc si sa iti spun ca nu e asa.

Inainte de ORE vita era in mare parte ca si acum; o lupta neintrerupta pentru multumire si satisfactie, in sensul cel mai inalt.

 

16. La ce visezi acum?

 

La somn.





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ORIGINAL INTERVIEW IN ENGLISH

 

1. Leaving aside labels, can you make a short characterization of your musical style and approach?

 

Love; the deadliest, most lethal of all contractible symptoms.

Pain & Pleasure: how delightful, how deceiving, and how consuming.

Lust: how a flame of all worldly desires burns inside every man and woman.

Life; I love to watch and be watched. I dream and I lust. I love and I hate. I laugh and I cry. But where does my testosterone take me?

Enlightenment; how everything suddenly can become so clear after failure, after failure, after failure.

Lies; what is truth and lies for those who neither see nor hear?

War; how a never-ending struggle started on May 14th 1948.

Three is an Orgy; four hands please better than two. Loving as three might be the salvation we all search for. Who is kissing your Apocalips?

Ignorance; not being able to see the forest for the trees. Are we really willing to accept the consequences of our actions?

Change; how the sun always sets and every day always ends. How everything ever changes, but still remains the same.

 

2. I know you always say that you make music for your own pleasure, and far from me the intention to insinuate that your music is commercial, but who is your public? Those who consume you, how do they identify with you and you with them? What's the red line that connects your dots?

 

You tell me.

I have absolutely no idea who our average listener is, especially since I think the situation has changed over the years.

What is the red line that connects you with others who listen to our music? What brings you together? Group Sex? Spiritual and ideological kinship?

 

3. What is The Army of Roses?

 

The Army of Roses & Equilibrium was an ambition I founded along with the O.R.E website back in 2000. A forum in which we could interact with our listeners.

But the intention failed and nothing I aspired was achieved.

It will however be resurrected and perfected; becoming a platform for the like-minded or a community for sexual investigations and dreams cuming true? Time will tell what is will become, but right now it is hibernating.

 

4. Do you share the views and spirituality or embrace in any way any religion or faith? In its widest connotation.   

 

Do you feel connected?

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5. What about fate?


I don’t believe in fate.

It feels disturbed to believe that everything is preconceived by divine intervention.

What if I go out today and massacre everyone I see? Is this fate? Is this an act of god that was predestined to happen according to a divine plan?

I don’t believe so.

We paint the picture ourselves, in whatever colors we like.

We choose the scenario, we decide on the objects.

Sometimes others involuntarily paint the picture for us, but in the end, it is our decision and our picture.

It is better to regret the things we do, than the things we never did.

 

6. Do you believe in the transmigration of the soul? Do you remember the depravity of Rome?

 

This is a complex notion.

I do not like the idea of wandering souls.

It feels useless to reincarnate if we can’t consciously make use of the past and improve the present. But I partially believe in the idea of one unanimous energy, being THAT which integrates the world as we know it.

Not a god, not one collective spirit, but one unanimous spark of energy that makes everything function.

And THAT energy in itself, intrinsically possesses the ability to deliver tiny subconscious fractions of intense impressions / memories of the past, to us, through the energy that we embody and make our bodies operate accordingly.

 

7. Love and sex: two sides of the same medal or coincidentia oppositorum?

 

We don’t fuck everyone we love, and we don’t love everyone we fuck.

They are simply not the same thing.

Not even different sides of the same coin.

One does not necessarily have anything to do with the other.

Love is great and sex is great, and they really great when they happen together, but they can be just as great by themselves.

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8. In accordance to the Order of the Equilibrium direction, could you give us the counterpart that makes "the balance through imbalance" of the following:

 

Music -

A faint reflection of someone’s psyche during a limited duration of time, a.k.a “the process of creation”. Always interesting, sometimes captivating.

For me, music is a selfish, constructive outlet.

It serves the purpose of satisfying myself, my desires, my dreams, my thoughts and answers some of the questions I have.

What I portray is a reflection of me, lyrically as well as musically, musically as well as graphically. It is MY physiological evidence.

And if this canalization of ego, through text, music and images; is able to inspire one single person to seize his or her life, realize their dreams, and LIVE life to its fullest potential, then my quest is done and it was all worth it.

 

Apocalips -

Between the Apocalips is where we were created, and it is where we were born. They are the lips I kiss and the lips I savor. They are the lips of lust and creation, the lips we seek to satisfy and the lips for which we suffer in desire.

They are the lips that can start wars, and the lips that are able to end them.

Who is kissing your Apocalips?

 

Apocalypse -

The Apocalypse as I see it, has already started.

It won’t start with the arrival of anyone or anything in particular, the Apocalypse is manmade and it has already begun.

We have already started dying from war, pollution, world starvation, natural disasters, man made diseases, biological and chemical warfare etc., etc.

The misconception is that people expect a grand finale; they keep waiting for some sort of divine fire works, and it’s not likely to happen anytime soon.

The Apocalypse for me is just a process of change. It is not a permanent state as of eternal happiness, bliss, despair or misfortune; these are just religious descriptions of what the believers want the outcome of the Apocalypse to be.

Call the Apocalypse war, call it change, call it total moral depravation, call it social deconstruction, call it what you want. The end of the world has already started, it started with the genesis of man, and will sustain until the virus we call mankind is eradicated from the face of the earth.

There is nothing we can do to stop it, and the only thing we can do in the meantime is to make as much as we can of the petty time we have been granted.

As far as I have been informed, the Antichrist is already here, he is institutionalized in a psychiatric ward outside of New York and wrote me a letter about two years ago asking for my assistance.

And I also believe that Jesus is next door, also eating his medication.

 

Paganism –

What can I say?

“To do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law”.

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Sex –

Sex is never the question, sex is the answer.

We are never as vulnerable, and we are never as strong.

Lust and sexuality determines WHO and WHAT we are. Bi, hetero, trans or homo is not very important. If I want a girl I fuck a girl, if I want a man I fuck a man, I want both I fuck both. I fuck, I kiss, I touch, I feel, I taste, I lust; I am sexual, nothing more.

 

Orgy -

Let’s do it alone, let’s do it as two, as three or as four; the more the merrier. Men women, women men. As far as there is consensus, anything goes. Four hands please better than two.

 

Pornography -

What is pornography? Is any sexuality displayed on film, pornography?

Are all naked people having sex with each other on film and in picture pornographic; even the really ugly people?

I like porn, I really do, I think it is quite constructive, and I much rather waste and hour in front of the TV watching porn than wasting an hour watching an uninteresting drama.

 

Faith -

When our gods are burning, that’s when life truly begins.

 

9. "The Gospel of Tomas" (and more): Can you or do you see yourself as a kind of (anti-) prophet? And if that is not the intention, why all these fantastic parables? A creed or just epic poems?

 

Yes, I am the anti-prophet.

Cum join and witness for yourselves, the orgies of Roses and Equilibrium.

 

Hear not my words I speak not the truth
I speak not of wisdom I speak not to you
I pick not my flower from the lineage of men
I reap her in secrecy from the pure and insane
See not my signs they are not to be seen
They reflect just the madness of my secrets concealed
See not my face it appeals not to thee
I am Cain I am Cesar I am Judas to be
See not my soul it is feared and despised
Be seduced by my words and deceived by the light
I am raped by my sister she’s my brother disguised
Let hell be my refuge I am Jesus defiled
 

10. Will World War IV be fought with sticks and stones?

 

The Third World War has already started, some are just to blind to see it; believing it will look the same as WWI and WWII. But the times have changed and things don’t look the same anymore, and neither does war.

So who knows what WWIV will look like?

We’ll know when this is over.

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11. 'Nuff about the serious stuff, now that the end is drawing near. So how did the cumshot hunt turn up? For the Practice Makes Perfect album, I mean.

 

I received a lot of contributions from across the globe and I am very pleased with the results and how everything turned out.

But judging from your question and similar questions by others, I am not sure if people understood our ambitions correctly.

Some seem to believe that it was a competition with a winner; it was not; and saying that we were on the hunt for cum-shots is not a very accurate description either.

What I asked for was an interaction with our listeners. We wanted them to give something back to us, after giving something to them for the past 15 years; and what we asked for was their private masturbation photography, to utilize in the graphical / aesthetic context of O N A N I.

And this we have done.

 

12. Why not official videos? Why not more visual support? I mean, you do have some artsy photos on your site, but all video material on the internet is kinda crappy, just lame recordings from live shows.

 

Yes, why not.

I would love for all these “crappy” live recordings to disappear into thin air. And I would love the idea to have more visual propaganda and resources, but it is matter of time and money. And we have neither.

 

O N A N I will feature a video clip and a whole new selection of photography. And so will “Songs 4 Hate & Devotion” in September 2009. And we will keep creating more and more visuals as we proceed, but all this takes time, and time is money, and money is a limited resource.

 

13. Speaking of concerts, although you had common projects with Spiritual Front, you will appear in Brasov with (neighbor Cold Meat Ind. band) In Slaughter Natives and Cascadeur, while Spiritual Front will follow you a month later, with Rome. Why, oh, why deprive us of the rare occasion to see you and Simone together? Agendas so impossible to match?

 

Yes, why do the organizers deprive us of this?

I would have loved the opportunity of playing together in Romania, and at first I thought this was the idea, but apparently it was not.

We have time, he has time, so matching our schedules was never an issue.

Next time we meet is when Simone comes to Stockholm for my birthday and the release party of O N A N I on January 17th, but of course it would have been great to meet and perform together in Romania already in November.

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14. And speaking of Simone, I remember you once said that you only work with people you engage with sexually. So how did you and Mr. Armageddon Gigolo meet?

 

We met at an orgy in Berlin. We recognized each-other since we had mutual friends in Italy, and between various “censored” acts of adult character we had some drinks and started talking about life, sex, death and music, and came to a mutual conclusion that maybe we owed it to ourselves and the world in general, to make something worthwhile together.

It was an interesting and very rewarding meeting. We have met several times since, but a first meeting is always the first.

 

15. How was life before ORE? How did you make a living? What did you dream about?

 

You seem to be under the impression that I manage to make a living exclusively from ORE, but I must disappoint you and tell you that I am not.

Life before ORE was very much like life is right now; an everlasting struggle for contentment in the greatest sense.

 

16. What do you dream about now?

 

I dream about sleep.





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